. >>> something of a surprise, senator jim demint of south carolina left the senate to become the head of the heritage foundation, and it created a big debate on whether he had impact. >> i believe that i can do more good for the conservative movement outside of the senate. >> well, i think it's safe to say boehner is not forcing either of you guys out, right? >> that's pretty true. >> it might work a little bit the other way, rush. >> right. >> mary, do you think demint made the right choice if he wants to have more influence? >> yes, absolutely. as our hero once said, ideas drive history. ideas drive progress. and heritage has long been a vaunt of so many good ideas. and they have -- they're respected. they're cutting edge. we find in congress, it's a piecemeal process. these guys have big ideas and they have big frameworks, he has a conservative, as a constitutionist, that was a brilliant move, a good move for us, a brilliant move for him and it also leaves nikki haley to fulfill her legacy, her vision of real legislative reform and real economic reform by appointing someone like ti